ARGH sc.com is dead.
please take note of the forum that xctu has set up in lieu (the link brings you to the asia/australia matchfinder):
here
and here's the sc thread on the namco bandai games forum, which has some interesting sc discussion going on, go take a look and join in!
here
Wednesday, November 14, 2007
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Saturday, August 25, 2007
Soul SG SC 3 AE 2v2 Tourney 4 Neoshinji
(ad verbatim from rein's post on the tourney results board at sc.com)
Alright Soul SG! I know this is a very last minute tournament and I thank you for all who participated!
Airconman from the GGXX community who lent us his camcorder to record the event deserves a special mention.
I hope Neoshinji had a blast here in SG though I think we left him starving for quite a few times... Sorry!
Ok details of the tournament.
Date: 25th August 2007
Format: Double Elimination
Character Select: 1 per Player
Stage Select: Random
Battle Format: 2v2.
E.g.
Team SSBB (SluttySlut & BitchyBitch) VS Team HHGG (HornyHottie + GayGay)
Since we have 2 machines which from what I understand have been fixed. We are gonna call them Machine A (MA) & Machine B (MB).
So Team SSBB informs marshall that SS will play on MA and BB will play on MB. (The other team will not know this info)
Like wise, Team HHGG inform marshall that GG will play on MA and HH will play on MB.
So we have:
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut VS (HHGG) GayGay
Machine B: (SSBB) BitchyBitch VS (HHGG) HornyHottie
Let's say the results are as follows.
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut Wins
Machine B: (SSBB) BitchyBitch Wins
-Team SSBB advances to winner's bracket and Team HHGG advances to loser's bracket
Now, if the results in a tie, a tie breaker amongst the winner will occur.
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut Wins
Machine B: (HHGG) HornyHottie Wins
A tiebreaker will occur on whichever machine is available first. Say in this case it's Machine A.
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut VS (HHGG) HornyHottie.
On to the teams that participated!
-Moldy Cheese-
01. Farplenoodle - Seung Mina
02. Aheda - Xiang Hua
-USA-
03. Neoshinji - Taki
04. DTArchon - Sophitia
-Rockets-
05. Jovian - Setsuka
06. Raymus - Astaroth
-Brothers Of Gay-
07. Whirow - Maxi
08. Ethan - Mitsurugi
-G-
09. Crono - Mitsurugi
10. JayZ - Voldo
-Hidden Bosses-
11. HP Lim - Maxi
12. Rii - Nightmare
-SSBB-
13. SluttySlut aka Jouli - Ivy
14. BitchyBitch aka Sadistic Desire - Taki
-T2-
15. Mich The Evil Queen - Taki
16. Taxi - Taki
RESULTS
Champion - Team Rockets!
2nd Placing - T2!
3rd Placing - Hidden Bosses!
The Brackets for your viewing pleasure!
We got some tourney + exhibition vids down but it's rather flickery. Will try to post em up!
Any comments, suggestions, bitching, slapping, post up here!
Alright Soul SG! I know this is a very last minute tournament and I thank you for all who participated!
Airconman from the GGXX community who lent us his camcorder to record the event deserves a special mention.
I hope Neoshinji had a blast here in SG though I think we left him starving for quite a few times... Sorry!
Ok details of the tournament.
Date: 25th August 2007
Format: Double Elimination
Character Select: 1 per Player
Stage Select: Random
Battle Format: 2v2.
E.g.
Team SSBB (SluttySlut & BitchyBitch) VS Team HHGG (HornyHottie + GayGay)
Since we have 2 machines which from what I understand have been fixed. We are gonna call them Machine A (MA) & Machine B (MB).
So Team SSBB informs marshall that SS will play on MA and BB will play on MB. (The other team will not know this info)
Like wise, Team HHGG inform marshall that GG will play on MA and HH will play on MB.
So we have:
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut VS (HHGG) GayGay
Machine B: (SSBB) BitchyBitch VS (HHGG) HornyHottie
Let's say the results are as follows.
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut Wins
Machine B: (SSBB) BitchyBitch Wins
-Team SSBB advances to winner's bracket and Team HHGG advances to loser's bracket
Now, if the results in a tie, a tie breaker amongst the winner will occur.
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut Wins
Machine B: (HHGG) HornyHottie Wins
A tiebreaker will occur on whichever machine is available first. Say in this case it's Machine A.
Machine A: (SSBB) SluttySlut VS (HHGG) HornyHottie.
On to the teams that participated!
-Moldy Cheese-
01. Farplenoodle - Seung Mina
02. Aheda - Xiang Hua
-USA-
03. Neoshinji - Taki
04. DTArchon - Sophitia
-Rockets-
05. Jovian - Setsuka
06. Raymus - Astaroth
-Brothers Of Gay-
07. Whirow - Maxi
08. Ethan - Mitsurugi
-G-
09. Crono - Mitsurugi
10. JayZ - Voldo
-Hidden Bosses-
11. HP Lim - Maxi
12. Rii - Nightmare
-SSBB-
13. SluttySlut aka Jouli - Ivy
14. BitchyBitch aka Sadistic Desire - Taki
-T2-
15. Mich The Evil Queen - Taki
16. Taxi - Taki
RESULTS
Champion - Team Rockets!
2nd Placing - T2!
3rd Placing - Hidden Bosses!
The Brackets for your viewing pleasure!
We got some tourney + exhibition vids down but it's rather flickery. Will try to post em up!
Any comments, suggestions, bitching, slapping, post up here!
Friday, August 24, 2007
japan pics!!!!!!!!
here are the long-awaited japan pics... enjoy!
comments on the pics (some comments are specific, see if you can tell which pic it belongs to):
- all car pics courtesy of ck
- mega mac is ridiculously big, but not as big as MUTANT OMU RICE, which is seriously from another planet. EVERYONE had to chip in to finish the largest size omu rice.
- the ZOFF husky pic is for sad WOOF
- the divination lot i got at the temple said "LAST AND SMALLEST FORTUNE"... kthxbye
- if you see the pic of a vending machine, it's special 'cos it's selling special coffee with pictures of the evangelion cast... it's publicity for "rebuild of evangelion".
- THERE IS A SILENT HILL SHOOTING GAME... which is more similar to house of the dead than we expected.
- sadaharu is trying to bite my head OUCH
- rein bears sole responsibility for all freakola pics with himself and me/thomas/mich/ck/linus/anybody unfortunate inside.
- old japanese ah bengs have bigger hairdos and thus, bigger balls.
- my hair looks silky soft because there was free conditioner in the hotel.
- hey jouli it's your favourite ivy player!
- that damn fatty tuna sushi (THAT I ORDERED AND ATE BY MYSELF) was really 99% fat and 1% meat... YUMZ
- hey sad me and mich found you in aki and we took a pic with you! we caught you by your ears so you wouldn't get away like that naughty mew.
- they had BIG BANG BEAT freeplay at this shop... very cool. i think it was a publicity thing.
- the black/brown double-layered dessert was actually coffee jelly... delicious.
- one of us is crazy about maaya sakamoto... guess who?
- "I AM A SINGER" + mrs. frankenstein wig = CRAZY
- we went to a maid cafe. it scarred us for life. we will bear the burden of the mind-blowing details FOREVER (don't bother asking us though... what happens in a maid cafe STAYS in a maid cafe).
these are all batou's pics, i've got a few of my own that's coming soon! don't change the channel!
Tax
comments on the pics (some comments are specific, see if you can tell which pic it belongs to):
- all car pics courtesy of ck
- mega mac is ridiculously big, but not as big as MUTANT OMU RICE, which is seriously from another planet. EVERYONE had to chip in to finish the largest size omu rice.
- the ZOFF husky pic is for sad WOOF
- the divination lot i got at the temple said "LAST AND SMALLEST FORTUNE"... kthxbye
- if you see the pic of a vending machine, it's special 'cos it's selling special coffee with pictures of the evangelion cast... it's publicity for "rebuild of evangelion".
- THERE IS A SILENT HILL SHOOTING GAME... which is more similar to house of the dead than we expected.
- sadaharu is trying to bite my head OUCH
- rein bears sole responsibility for all freakola pics with himself and me/thomas/mich/ck/linus/anybody unfortunate inside.
- old japanese ah bengs have bigger hairdos and thus, bigger balls.
- my hair looks silky soft because there was free conditioner in the hotel.
- hey jouli it's your favourite ivy player!
- that damn fatty tuna sushi (THAT I ORDERED AND ATE BY MYSELF) was really 99% fat and 1% meat... YUMZ
- hey sad me and mich found you in aki and we took a pic with you! we caught you by your ears so you wouldn't get away like that naughty mew.
- they had BIG BANG BEAT freeplay at this shop... very cool. i think it was a publicity thing.
- the black/brown double-layered dessert was actually coffee jelly... delicious.
- one of us is crazy about maaya sakamoto... guess who?
- "I AM A SINGER" + mrs. frankenstein wig = CRAZY
- we went to a maid cafe. it scarred us for life. we will bear the burden of the mind-blowing details FOREVER (don't bother asking us though... what happens in a maid cafe STAYS in a maid cafe).
these are all batou's pics, i've got a few of my own that's coming soon! don't change the channel!
Tax
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Japan Trip
Hey Hey, not sure if anyone's interested ...
Just thought i'd do a short report on the Trip + casuals + SBO.
Day 1:
We reached japan at around 8am in the morning. Didn't believe my folks when they told me that Japan was HOT. I mean it was Japan, and how bad could it be ? Then the heat hit me and i'm a believer. The scorching sun, and absolute lack of cloud cover had me consoling myself that I'd _definitely_ lose weight in Japan! Due to late checking in time for the hotel (3pm), we found ourselves wondering around asakusa temple. Tax, rein and Thomas did the interesting mikuji thing. What their fortunes were, I'd leave it to them to say. No SC today. Everyone was tired out from the plane journey and traipsing around in the sweltering sun.
Day 2:
One day before the Shinjuku West 3 on 3 tourney. We decided to get some practise in and it was off to Akihabara. We needed to know how the different SC version in Japan impacted our main characters, for eg. was Taki's WL KKK still a NC? (I would cry if it wasn't..) and if there was any last minute adaptations required. Club Sega in Aki was a smoke chamber! I apologised to my lungs for all the second hand smoke inhaled.
There were 2 SC machines - a vs cabinet and a sit-next-to-each-other one -- This was actually quite miserly ompared to the Guilty Gear / VF machines available. Rein and Tax started sparring with each other, I noticed this particular chap staring intently at them. (i think he was at Tax's side first, then later he walked over to Rein's side). I couldnt decide whether he was 1) actually watching the game next to SC or 2) he was an SC player. It was until the next day that we found out that he was the SBO qualifier, Isbella Neo.
Devil Jim came later. Rein and Tax chatted with him for a bit. I don't remember talking to him. Didn't get to play his Soph. =( Watching it however, it seemed to be like the usual wait-and-punish Soph. No special setups i can remember off hand, but i guess it would have to be solid to be in SBO.
Isabella Neo's Ivy OTOH was a PAIN. Turtle Ivy has always been a difficult matchup for Taki. This guy does just that. I was whiffing and eating random CSes. Gah!!! Rein and Tax did much better than me, and i was secretly happy that they did well against him after getting used to his tactics. Go Cass 66A!!
End of day 2.
Day 3:
Shinjuku West Exit tourney Day! We were quite pumped up. Our order was Tax (cass), Rein (nightmare) and me (taki). Sign ups for the tourney started at 2.30, but we went there early to warm-up and check out the competition. Already there were some players there ahead of us. I noticed that there was this mitsurugi player in shades, wearing a pull-over cap, and carring a fan. He reminded me totally of Kisuke Urahara from Bleach. Later I found out that he was dekka cho. Another Asta player also caught my eye. i went to play him. OMFG!! I have never been rung out soo many times in my life! GAH! However, I did sense that he was not used to playing against Taki, and got off a few lucky UBs. Later i found out that he was Sarusube! Later on, Oosaka came, Kita Senri too, and I managed to see 666. We met Talim JP (who was very friendly) and Reno (long time no see) too. Chang's Friend was there as well. KT Voldo came in Voldo's Moon Mask. We got him to take a photo with us in the arcade (even tho' photography was banned in arcades. haha) The whole tourney was a "OMG! it was like the who's who of Japanese SC IS here!" (i might have missed out a couple of persons, so do forgive me if i missed u out.)
Oh yah. Back to the tourney. Tax and Rein charged their way through 4th place. The hard work was all theirs, and i was immensely proud of being in Team Singapore! We actually didnt do that badly after all =) I lost to KTVoldo (mantis is BAD!!!) and Kita Senri (no more random As vs Sets 3aB at Ring edge!!)
Later on, we got to talk to the Japanese Players, Talim JP helpfully showed us how to get to Odaiba, and him and reno helped act as translators. Tax accousted Kita Senri and MADE him tell us anti-Voldo strats. Kita Senri was very nice, and patiently answered our questions as best as he could. In fact the whole Japanese community was very friendly. The language barrier was a major downer tho'.
i think we left at 9pm, after more casuals. The next day was SBO day, and we would have to leave the hotel at 6am in order to reach Odaiba in time for the last chance tourney
... to be continued.
mich
Just thought i'd do a short report on the Trip + casuals + SBO.
Day 1:
We reached japan at around 8am in the morning. Didn't believe my folks when they told me that Japan was HOT. I mean it was Japan, and how bad could it be ? Then the heat hit me and i'm a believer. The scorching sun, and absolute lack of cloud cover had me consoling myself that I'd _definitely_ lose weight in Japan! Due to late checking in time for the hotel (3pm), we found ourselves wondering around asakusa temple. Tax, rein and Thomas did the interesting mikuji thing. What their fortunes were, I'd leave it to them to say. No SC today. Everyone was tired out from the plane journey and traipsing around in the sweltering sun.
Day 2:
One day before the Shinjuku West 3 on 3 tourney. We decided to get some practise in and it was off to Akihabara. We needed to know how the different SC version in Japan impacted our main characters, for eg. was Taki's WL KKK still a NC? (I would cry if it wasn't..) and if there was any last minute adaptations required. Club Sega in Aki was a smoke chamber! I apologised to my lungs for all the second hand smoke inhaled.
There were 2 SC machines - a vs cabinet and a sit-next-to-each-other one -- This was actually quite miserly ompared to the Guilty Gear / VF machines available. Rein and Tax started sparring with each other, I noticed this particular chap staring intently at them. (i think he was at Tax's side first, then later he walked over to Rein's side). I couldnt decide whether he was 1) actually watching the game next to SC or 2) he was an SC player. It was until the next day that we found out that he was the SBO qualifier, Isbella Neo.
Devil Jim came later. Rein and Tax chatted with him for a bit. I don't remember talking to him. Didn't get to play his Soph. =( Watching it however, it seemed to be like the usual wait-and-punish Soph. No special setups i can remember off hand, but i guess it would have to be solid to be in SBO.
Isabella Neo's Ivy OTOH was a PAIN. Turtle Ivy has always been a difficult matchup for Taki. This guy does just that. I was whiffing and eating random CSes. Gah!!! Rein and Tax did much better than me, and i was secretly happy that they did well against him after getting used to his tactics. Go Cass 66A!!
End of day 2.
Day 3:
Shinjuku West Exit tourney Day! We were quite pumped up. Our order was Tax (cass), Rein (nightmare) and me (taki). Sign ups for the tourney started at 2.30, but we went there early to warm-up and check out the competition. Already there were some players there ahead of us. I noticed that there was this mitsurugi player in shades, wearing a pull-over cap, and carring a fan. He reminded me totally of Kisuke Urahara from Bleach. Later I found out that he was dekka cho. Another Asta player also caught my eye. i went to play him. OMFG!! I have never been rung out soo many times in my life! GAH! However, I did sense that he was not used to playing against Taki, and got off a few lucky UBs. Later i found out that he was Sarusube! Later on, Oosaka came, Kita Senri too, and I managed to see 666. We met Talim JP (who was very friendly) and Reno (long time no see) too. Chang's Friend was there as well. KT Voldo came in Voldo's Moon Mask. We got him to take a photo with us in the arcade (even tho' photography was banned in arcades. haha) The whole tourney was a "OMG! it was like the who's who of Japanese SC IS here!" (i might have missed out a couple of persons, so do forgive me if i missed u out.)
Oh yah. Back to the tourney. Tax and Rein charged their way through 4th place. The hard work was all theirs, and i was immensely proud of being in Team Singapore! We actually didnt do that badly after all =) I lost to KTVoldo (mantis is BAD!!!) and Kita Senri (no more random As vs Sets 3aB at Ring edge!!)
Later on, we got to talk to the Japanese Players, Talim JP helpfully showed us how to get to Odaiba, and him and reno helped act as translators. Tax accousted Kita Senri and MADE him tell us anti-Voldo strats. Kita Senri was very nice, and patiently answered our questions as best as he could. In fact the whole Japanese community was very friendly. The language barrier was a major downer tho'.
i think we left at 9pm, after more casuals. The next day was SBO day, and we would have to leave the hotel at 6am in order to reach Odaiba in time for the last chance tourney
... to be continued.
mich
Saturday, July 21, 2007
results for july VS tourney!
and another tourney comes and goes...
here are the results:
1st: jovian
2nd: raymus
3rd: aheda
thanks to shiks and louis for their efforts. apologies for not being able to make it, but i assure you that i and the rest really wanted to be there.
to the next tourney!
Tax
here are the results:
1st: jovian
2nd: raymus
3rd: aheda
thanks to shiks and louis for their efforts. apologies for not being able to make it, but i assure you that i and the rest really wanted to be there.
to the next tourney!
Tax
Saturday, June 23, 2007
june VS league tourney... complete!
once again, another successful, full-attendance tourney!!
thanks to shiks and louis as usual for their effort, and to everyone who turned up for the tourney... and here are the results:
1st - dtarchon
2nd - rein
3rd - sad
till next month!
Tax
thanks to shiks and louis as usual for their effort, and to everyone who turned up for the tourney... and here are the results:
1st - dtarchon
2nd - rein
3rd - sad
till next month!
Tax
Saturday, May 19, 2007
may VS league tourney - another one under the belt!
WELL! another successful tourney.
once again, thanks to the organisers, and shiks and louis for setting up the whole shindig.
also, thanks to everyone for turning up and filling up the slots; we really appreciate the support.
oh and i'd also like to give a big shoutout to the newcomers, highlander, kai and haiziman! always cool to see some new blood around here. not sure whether you guys will read this, but feel free to ask any of us for gameplay tips or just to say hi, and keep participating in the future tourneys!
here are the results:
1st - jovian
2nd - dtarchon
3rd - raymus
looking forward to the next tourney!
Tax
once again, thanks to the organisers, and shiks and louis for setting up the whole shindig.
also, thanks to everyone for turning up and filling up the slots; we really appreciate the support.
oh and i'd also like to give a big shoutout to the newcomers, highlander, kai and haiziman! always cool to see some new blood around here. not sure whether you guys will read this, but feel free to ask any of us for gameplay tips or just to say hi, and keep participating in the future tourneys!
here are the results:
1st - jovian
2nd - dtarchon
3rd - raymus
looking forward to the next tourney!
Tax
Thursday, May 10, 2007
sc adventure game CONFIRMED
hmm i guess the soul calibur adventure game for the wii is confirmed after all. 1up.com has an article on it, click here to read.
as usual, ivy and sieg get cool wallpapers. disgusting. there better be some bloody costume customisation in this game or i'm gonna go japan and slap everyone in namco.
even the receptionist.
Tax
as usual, ivy and sieg get cool wallpapers. disgusting. there better be some bloody costume customisation in this game or i'm gonna go japan and slap everyone in namco.
even the receptionist.
Tax
Wednesday, May 9, 2007
a sign of (shitty) things to come
kotaku.com has an article on the upcoming soul calibur game for the wii...
...the upcoming soul calibur ADVENTURE game.
this better not be namco's idea of sc4. i already hate conquest mode and all its variants. click here to read more.
Tax
...the upcoming soul calibur ADVENTURE game.
this better not be namco's idea of sc4. i already hate conquest mode and all its variants. click here to read more.
Tax
Monday, April 23, 2007
most damaging followup for cass' command throw
a gazillion people have been asking me this, so here goes.
the most damaging followup for cass' command throw is 8A+K K. the input is crazy easy. no, i don't know why one move has two different inputs. but there it is, for 65 dmg. i have had moments when it whiffed or got teched out, so do it at your own risk. still quite worth it though, imo.
thanks to talim jp and oosaka for the original information!
Tax
the most damaging followup for cass' command throw is 8A+K K. the input is crazy easy. no, i don't know why one move has two different inputs. but there it is, for 65 dmg. i have had moments when it whiffed or got teched out, so do it at your own risk. still quite worth it though, imo.
thanks to talim jp and oosaka for the original information!
Tax
Sunday, April 22, 2007
WTF moments from april's vs league tourney!
kk posting hilarious moments from this april's vs league tourney, courtesy of shiks' post on the sc.com forums sg thread:
- Benson aka colourwolf offered to shake hands with Reiny after his match. Reiny's like all magnimously shaking hands with Benson and like five seconds later - "OH! It's YOU!". Apparently he thought he was some random fan and didn't recognise Benson at first -_-**
- Some random girl was saying "Where's Sandra?" at the back and was craning her neck to identify this super girl who's looking all set to win the tourney. Guess she was disappointed...majorly.
- Tax, Reiny and random Tekken guys. Crotch slapping. Don't ask me for more details.
- Random spectators looking at the bracket board were all "Eh? How come got Bitch and Slut one?". Others were trying to decipher how the bracket board works heh.
(additional quote from shiks)
Oh yeah! One more anecdote from my side - how Bitch came into existence, last minute in the tourney.
Spyder (looking through the registration): Hey! How come got bitch one?
Shiks: *just shrugs*
Spyder: Ok ok! Sign me up also. I shall be Bitch! And...dun tell ppl who Bitch really is ok?
And through a marvelous twist of fate, it so came to pass that Slut drew number 3 and Bitch drew number 4 for their brackets...and they ended up erm..."playing" each other. -_- The Bitch came out on top although the Slut got some revenge but seriously twisting the mojo of the Whirow, resulting in the soon to be famous Maxi self RO.
- Benson aka colourwolf offered to shake hands with Reiny after his match. Reiny's like all magnimously shaking hands with Benson and like five seconds later - "OH! It's YOU!". Apparently he thought he was some random fan and didn't recognise Benson at first -_-**
- Some random girl was saying "Where's Sandra?" at the back and was craning her neck to identify this super girl who's looking all set to win the tourney. Guess she was disappointed...majorly.
- Tax, Reiny and random Tekken guys. Crotch slapping. Don't ask me for more details.
- Random spectators looking at the bracket board were all "Eh? How come got Bitch and Slut one?". Others were trying to decipher how the bracket board works heh.
(additional quote from shiks)
Oh yeah! One more anecdote from my side - how Bitch came into existence, last minute in the tourney.
Spyder (looking through the registration): Hey! How come got bitch one?
Shiks: *just shrugs*
Spyder: Ok ok! Sign me up also. I shall be Bitch! And...dun tell ppl who Bitch really is ok?
And through a marvelous twist of fate, it so came to pass that Slut drew number 3 and Bitch drew number 4 for their brackets...and they ended up erm..."playing" each other. -_- The Bitch came out on top although the Slut got some revenge but seriously twisting the mojo of the Whirow, resulting in the soon to be famous Maxi self RO.
Saturday, April 21, 2007
april vs league results
whoo! once again another tourney is over. many thanks to everyone for participating, and of course to shiks and louis for their effort.
results:
1st: jovian
2nd: raymus
3rd: reinhart
one more month till the next tourney!
Tax
results:
1st: jovian
2nd: raymus
3rd: reinhart
one more month till the next tourney!
Tax
Tuesday, April 17, 2007
player critiques by... Dtarchon
(ad verbatim from dtarchon's post on sc.com forums sg thread)
firstly let me state i am NOT JUST a defensive player but a bloody offence-minded player who has his mind always on thinking different but VIABLE+EFFECTIVE ways to attack/evade/counter the opponent. Defense is boring DUH!..who wants to guard your attacks all day...i want to attack non-stop (if that was possible) with all the tools at my disposal and have a great exchange. In this game You have to wait for the right moment to use a hidden hand or TEST a hidden hand. Doing "flashy" moves with no thought to setting it up is imo not flashy.
I enjoy charging in (with various methods) and slugging it out at close range. Thing is not everyone wants to get rushed down in such a manner and it is a form of training and balance for me to play a steady game with a turn-based "strategy" based on blocking and retaliating & not ALWAYS going in. You play based on the range of your weapon/moves and craft a strategy that fits your particular characters strengths, lessen the weakness AND not unnecessarily expose yourself to being punished.
Playing just to win is boring and only a part of the whole context of the game..i want to learn something new from the match by observing your pattern and testing some moves (in actual gameplay to see if it works the way i intended it to) which i can then later adapt naturally into my gameplay.
Back to blocking/guarding.. in this game, If u can't even block/guard properly, how can u can hope to mount an effective offense when u cannot survive long enuf to do any mindgames or mixups. I was forced to learn to recognise/anticipate incoming moves in order to survive long enough to play the game i want to. Simple as that.
In short, my lifebar is the amount of leeway i have to do stuff and play range/mind/time/timing games depending on the opponent. The game system is built this way and i can't change it, and the only way to improve is to know the system inside out and always take a positive attitude that there is no limit to how much one can learn and improve.
Ok without much furthur ado, let me name my top 5 in no particular ranking order..but in order of who made the most impact on me.
1) MICH
She has been my sparring partner for ages and ages since SC2 and i really enjoy her open-minded way to playing especially when i played some really really wicked games against her. She in fact helps me to improve the most as i use my mains against her and learn how to deal with all her TAKI tools at her disposal. Without her, i would not be what i am today. She is always game for a VS and i do appreciate it..maybe she senses that i have an inate passion for competition and just enjoy duking it out on the stage whether it be win lose or draw.
She is a solid player through and through BUT imo she has to hone her killing instinct, her will to really want to "kill"/"destroy" a certain character no matter what. Will that help or unbalance her gameplay, she will have to explore that herself. Taki is one of my best mains in part due to her and becos i learned from her Taki (playing her so regularly).
One key i feel for Taki is to DISRUPT your opponent's rhythm and Taki has all the tools to do it plus your basic GI. Taki has been nerfed a lot from SC2 and this has impacted her gameplay somewhat as she is old-school of sorts..like me. If Taki has a stronger possesion game, she would be able to mount more of a offense. I know the frustration, trust me..esp. against characters like Asta, Sophie and Cass.
Changing her patterns might be good too..but it would require a breakthrough of sorts and that won't be easy. OLD HABITS die hard. arghh...that applies to me also.
2) Next is Jovian.
Is there a weakness to him.. of cos there is. You have to think like him. In actual fact, Jovian is 2x better the defensive player that i am using Sophie and that is why i am genuinely frustrated and demoralised at his gameplay sometimes. There is nothing wrong with his gameplay!! it is almost perfect..it is how the game allows him to play that way and i recognise that all too clearly. So he is a benchmark for me to improve and find a way to hold my ground in my own unique manner and counter him(which i do incidentally but he gets the better of me most of the time
) Do i have to play like him, if i have to..yes but i would prefer to let things take its natural course and find a soln based on actual matches.
Do u think i will allow him to do his funny stuff on me..if he does stupid things or whiff things on me, i will punish him damned hard and vice versa.
Think about it..Sophie..what does the character excel at..1st and foremost punishing ability, then what..effective low/mid mixups..then terrain control tools. Since i and him generally spam safe moves, can block most of the lows and mids, and break/1 frame duck throws, the biggest advantage he holds is his mindset to space and counter. Excellent i might add...anyone paying attention to our games should see the frames we play by..incredible exciting stuff...assuming i have the will to go in of cos.
So what is the weakness..to be like him..know he is either waiting to punish you, waiting for that window of opportunity and trying to control your game. Exactly like me, so how? Only 2 ways..block everything correctly, wait for correct timing to retaliate for sure damage OR charge at him being fully aware and alert taking damage and inflicting damage on him in the process, using his natural caution/inbuilt reflex against him.
It is just that kind of game that goes to and fro..but not the game i really want to play day in and day out. A balance is needed but i don't seem to have the patience sometimes to deal with his stepping/whiffing games. Oh well...don't care just whack or play turtle =p
3) Taxi.
Whoa..a open-minded aggresive player. You guys say there is a discernible pattern to his gameplay but i say there is a certain intelligence to that "chaotic gameplay". It is a perfect foil to analytical players like me who try to condition players to do what i expect them to do. The only way to "control" Taxi is to punish him and punish him hard for purposely doing things repeatedly. Thing is he can adapt and i don't doubt his adapting ability for a moment. Weakness..i am sure he can improve so much more..in terms of picking alternative attack strings..just a matter whether he wants to. Enuf said.
4) hehe who is next..Raymus of cos..i haven't played him in a while..what he has is knowledge of the game which i didn't have in the past, giving him a great edge against me. While Jovian is an instinctive player, Raymus is an analytical player..no super reflexes like Jovian but he can come up with setups and patterns to pressure and keep you out..and mix you up effectively. His yomi is also there...
The frustration playing with him is totally different from playing against Jovian..i actually enjoy feeling frustrated at your gameplay cos i know i can find a counter and have done so many times. It is matter of the mind, not only limited by the gameplay system and that to me is what i am looking for in my games against everyone.
Weakness..ownself think. U can do it yrself
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5) Reignhart
Dedication to his characters is great..i do detect some bias from him against me but it is all good. Everyone has their own opinion. For me, I play all the characters to explore my limits, find new strategies and new ways of playing. It isn't an ego trip. Frankly speaking i don't really like this incarnation of SC3..all the cool stuff i could do in SC2 is no longer there and i am still adapting.
So now..strengths..u almost have it all my man. Only thing u don't have is dedication to a "top-tier" tourney character that will allow u to excel at a higher level. Emotions can make and break your gameplay..for me being devoid of emotion during our recent tourneys has done me no good. I say live with your passion and continue making the character your own. NM is unsafe..so what..just swing the right move at the right time at the right range can liao..buahaha...then no issue of safety.
firstly let me state i am NOT JUST a defensive player but a bloody offence-minded player who has his mind always on thinking different but VIABLE+EFFECTIVE ways to attack/evade/counter the opponent. Defense is boring DUH!..who wants to guard your attacks all day...i want to attack non-stop (if that was possible) with all the tools at my disposal and have a great exchange. In this game You have to wait for the right moment to use a hidden hand or TEST a hidden hand. Doing "flashy" moves with no thought to setting it up is imo not flashy.
I enjoy charging in (with various methods) and slugging it out at close range. Thing is not everyone wants to get rushed down in such a manner and it is a form of training and balance for me to play a steady game with a turn-based "strategy" based on blocking and retaliating & not ALWAYS going in. You play based on the range of your weapon/moves and craft a strategy that fits your particular characters strengths, lessen the weakness AND not unnecessarily expose yourself to being punished.
Playing just to win is boring and only a part of the whole context of the game..i want to learn something new from the match by observing your pattern and testing some moves (in actual gameplay to see if it works the way i intended it to) which i can then later adapt naturally into my gameplay.
Back to blocking/guarding.. in this game, If u can't even block/guard properly, how can u can hope to mount an effective offense when u cannot survive long enuf to do any mindgames or mixups. I was forced to learn to recognise/anticipate incoming moves in order to survive long enough to play the game i want to. Simple as that.
In short, my lifebar is the amount of leeway i have to do stuff and play range/mind/time/timing games depending on the opponent. The game system is built this way and i can't change it, and the only way to improve is to know the system inside out and always take a positive attitude that there is no limit to how much one can learn and improve.
Ok without much furthur ado, let me name my top 5 in no particular ranking order..but in order of who made the most impact on me.
1) MICH
She has been my sparring partner for ages and ages since SC2 and i really enjoy her open-minded way to playing especially when i played some really really wicked games against her. She in fact helps me to improve the most as i use my mains against her and learn how to deal with all her TAKI tools at her disposal. Without her, i would not be what i am today. She is always game for a VS and i do appreciate it..maybe she senses that i have an inate passion for competition and just enjoy duking it out on the stage whether it be win lose or draw.
She is a solid player through and through BUT imo she has to hone her killing instinct, her will to really want to "kill"/"destroy" a certain character no matter what. Will that help or unbalance her gameplay, she will have to explore that herself. Taki is one of my best mains in part due to her and becos i learned from her Taki (playing her so regularly).
One key i feel for Taki is to DISRUPT your opponent's rhythm and Taki has all the tools to do it plus your basic GI. Taki has been nerfed a lot from SC2 and this has impacted her gameplay somewhat as she is old-school of sorts..like me. If Taki has a stronger possesion game, she would be able to mount more of a offense. I know the frustration, trust me..esp. against characters like Asta, Sophie and Cass.
Changing her patterns might be good too..but it would require a breakthrough of sorts and that won't be easy. OLD HABITS die hard. arghh...that applies to me also.
2) Next is Jovian.
Is there a weakness to him.. of cos there is. You have to think like him. In actual fact, Jovian is 2x better the defensive player that i am using Sophie and that is why i am genuinely frustrated and demoralised at his gameplay sometimes. There is nothing wrong with his gameplay!! it is almost perfect..it is how the game allows him to play that way and i recognise that all too clearly. So he is a benchmark for me to improve and find a way to hold my ground in my own unique manner and counter him(which i do incidentally but he gets the better of me most of the time
) Do i have to play like him, if i have to..yes but i would prefer to let things take its natural course and find a soln based on actual matches.Do u think i will allow him to do his funny stuff on me..if he does stupid things or whiff things on me, i will punish him damned hard and vice versa.
Think about it..Sophie..what does the character excel at..1st and foremost punishing ability, then what..effective low/mid mixups..then terrain control tools. Since i and him generally spam safe moves, can block most of the lows and mids, and break/1 frame duck throws, the biggest advantage he holds is his mindset to space and counter. Excellent i might add...anyone paying attention to our games should see the frames we play by..incredible exciting stuff...assuming i have the will to go in of cos.
So what is the weakness..to be like him..know he is either waiting to punish you, waiting for that window of opportunity and trying to control your game. Exactly like me, so how? Only 2 ways..block everything correctly, wait for correct timing to retaliate for sure damage OR charge at him being fully aware and alert taking damage and inflicting damage on him in the process, using his natural caution/inbuilt reflex against him.
It is just that kind of game that goes to and fro..but not the game i really want to play day in and day out. A balance is needed but i don't seem to have the patience sometimes to deal with his stepping/whiffing games. Oh well...don't care just whack or play turtle =p
3) Taxi.
Whoa..a open-minded aggresive player. You guys say there is a discernible pattern to his gameplay but i say there is a certain intelligence to that "chaotic gameplay". It is a perfect foil to analytical players like me who try to condition players to do what i expect them to do. The only way to "control" Taxi is to punish him and punish him hard for purposely doing things repeatedly. Thing is he can adapt and i don't doubt his adapting ability for a moment. Weakness..i am sure he can improve so much more..in terms of picking alternative attack strings..just a matter whether he wants to. Enuf said.
4) hehe who is next..Raymus of cos..i haven't played him in a while..what he has is knowledge of the game which i didn't have in the past, giving him a great edge against me. While Jovian is an instinctive player, Raymus is an analytical player..no super reflexes like Jovian but he can come up with setups and patterns to pressure and keep you out..and mix you up effectively. His yomi is also there...
The frustration playing with him is totally different from playing against Jovian..i actually enjoy feeling frustrated at your gameplay cos i know i can find a counter and have done so many times. It is matter of the mind, not only limited by the gameplay system and that to me is what i am looking for in my games against everyone.
Weakness..ownself think. U can do it yrself
.5) Reignhart
Dedication to his characters is great..i do detect some bias from him against me but it is all good. Everyone has their own opinion. For me, I play all the characters to explore my limits, find new strategies and new ways of playing. It isn't an ego trip. Frankly speaking i don't really like this incarnation of SC3..all the cool stuff i could do in SC2 is no longer there and i am still adapting.
So now..strengths..u almost have it all my man. Only thing u don't have is dedication to a "top-tier" tourney character that will allow u to excel at a higher level. Emotions can make and break your gameplay..for me being devoid of emotion during our recent tourneys has done me no good. I say live with your passion and continue making the character your own. NM is unsafe..so what..just swing the right move at the right time at the right range can liao..buahaha...then no issue of safety.
Sunday, April 15, 2007
player critiques by... Aheda
(ad verbatim from aheda's post on sc.com forums sg thread)
My Top 5..
Rii
mich
Jovian
Raymus
TaXi
Whether or not that's in order is for you guys to decide. Heh.
No offense to anyone.. This is just the comments of someone who's been here for a long time but never improved ^.^
Those are my Top 5.. those i was thinking about include Archon and Crono.. I should play against TKB more.
My Top 5..
Rii
mich
Jovian
Raymus
TaXi
Whether or not that's in order is for you guys to decide. Heh.
No offense to anyone.. This is just the comments of someone who's been here for a long time but never improved ^.^
quote:
Rii
Pros : Don't play against him enough to give lots of comments. I do agree that he has a strong sense of terrain awareness. Possibly one of the best amongst our current players, which is very important considering NM's forward RO game.. He's also one of the more passionate players we have. Experienced doesn't even begin to describe him. Having spent a LOT of time playing the game to improve his play.
Cons : Not the calmest player around, his gameplay is easily affected by his emotions. Also character choice, i believe everyone realizes this. Nightmare can only get so far in this episode of the series.
mich
Pros : Most experienced player we have right now and deserves to be called one of the best. Solid, simple yet effective gameplay that works. Also one of the calmest players we have. She's doesn't crack under tournament conditions even though she looks and claims to feel that way.
Cons : Doesn't read forums much, not so technically sound and doesn't worry too much about inputs etc... Her gameplay is quite "old school" so she doesn't utilize more of her newer tools as much as she should. Also spends a lot of time throwing rounds/matches for the sake of encouraging new players. Which i think has dampered her standard of play. Cares more about the growth of the community than about the game. (Which is a pro in any aspect except the one we're currently discussing)
Jovian
Pros : Works very hard at the game, has perfected inputs for most of the characters he plays. He leaves no follow-up undone and no move unpunished. This enthusiastic chap is easily our best player at the moment. Picked his character and understands them inside out whilst also playing and understanding the other characters in the game. His Cervantes or Yun-Seong are definitely opponents you must test yourself against.
Cons : Cannot decide how he wishes to approach the game (insert Flashy vs "Cheesy" argument here) and goes back and forth from them. Hampering his progress with his characters. Also lacks the Yomi that he would need to consistently outplay everyone else. This is probably because he is the most Junior amongst all the names mentioned in this post.
Raymus
Pros : Picks things up really quickly. Give him some advice and he'll implement it before your eyes in a flash. Very strong character choices that suit his playing style perfectly. Also very enthusiastic and reads the forums a lot. Its no wonder that him and his girlfriend/sparring partner Sandra rose up so quickly in our community.
Cons : Tends to goof off while he's winning. Also very predictable once you know what kind of moves/combos he likes. As mentioned before, his wall combo fetish can really giveaway how he's planning to get rid of your final lifebar. Also has a lack of ability to adapt to an opponent on the spot. He'll take quite awhile (maybe 2-3 games) to even AVOID any new setups that you throw at him. And his schedule has been quite killer as of late. Busier than some of the working people around here.
TaXi (This was quite a hard decision)
Pros : Extremely Offensive, utilizes jumps and Auto-GI very well. To me his gameplay basically consists of simple yet strong setups and mixups released in bombardments.. Its hard to imagine him BLOCKING at all.
Cons : Like mentioned before, he doesn't block at all. Spends a lot of time trying to Auto-GI or step attacks. If he leaves an opening, it usually stays open for awhile. Falls for techtraps easily. His lifebar goes down in really long chunks. Which is quite suicidal in an international tournament scenario.
Those are my Top 5.. those i was thinking about include Archon and Crono.. I should play against TKB more.
Saturday, April 14, 2007
player critiques: disclaimer
hey just as a disclaimer for the critiques...
i'd like to tell the rest of the soul sg players that the "top 5" list is really a top 5 list of people who have played for a bloody long time. experience is one of those key factors that helps you a lot in your gameplay.
but this also means that if you practice and play enough, YOU can be a top player too. i actually see a lot of up and coming players that are doing really well. with enough experience, i'm sure the pool of "top" players will expand.
so let's keep practicing! :D
i'd like to tell the rest of the soul sg players that the "top 5" list is really a top 5 list of people who have played for a bloody long time. experience is one of those key factors that helps you a lot in your gameplay.
but this also means that if you practice and play enough, YOU can be a top player too. i actually see a lot of up and coming players that are doing really well. with enough experience, i'm sure the pool of "top" players will expand.
so let's keep practicing! :D
player critiques by... Jovian
(ad verbatim from jovian's post on sc.com. forums sg thread)
In no particular order:
1) Rii
2) Raymus
3) Tax and Mich ( I can't decide, so i jus put them together like Rii did)
4) DTA
5) Jovian
1) Rii A.k.a. R.O. Terror. - Nightmare, Raphael
Strengths:
I think he has the experience to handle things. He likes to do things his way. And his sense of satisfaction when he lands NM 2A+B can't be found anywhere in SG. (Eat that bitch!) I love the way he plays Raphael, totally awesome. On the overall, i still think his Raph is better than his NM, maybe due to the fact that i know NM too well.
Weaknesses:
After playing a few rounds, u can see a pattern at certain times of the matches, For eg. when u have one drop of life left. Yea lack of patience at times shows the random usage of GS A. I have always have the strange feeling that it's coming. So, i guess u just have to be more patient but looking at yr personality( EAT THAT BITCH!), it's kinda hard to train on this point. Lol.
2) Raymus - Astaroth, Voldo
Strengths:
As my sparring partner, well i do expect alot from him. Even though he doesn't play for a long period of time, he still has the shit to kill people. His RO is something to look out. His "sick" mentality is his double edge weapon. He wants to finish off his opponent in the worst ways ever, explaining the 180+ dmg wall combos he does. On overall, an all rounder in skills. Just that he can't punish well enough at times which cost him a round or 2. He adapts pretty well too. His knowledge of the game is pretty decent, his input is okay. Patience wise, i'm not sure. Good reflexes too. VERY HIGH tolerance level.
Weaknesses:
As i said, his "sick" mentality is his double edge weapon. Knowing he likes to do wall combos, u kinda know what he's gonna do when he's near the wall, what kind of moves he's gonna throw out. Even at the ring edge, i have a list of moves which he will do to RO u. Cuz all he thinks about is that. Develops a pattern but over a long period of time, maybe 1 week or a month. Lol. I guess i'm the only one who realise that cuz i play him for a few years already. Right on! =/
3) Tax - Taki and Cassy
Strengths:
U're too random at times, which makes u unpredictable. But yr randomness kills u at times too. U have the mentality "Avoiding is better than blocking". It's definitely a good thing to avoid people. Decent reflex, input wise, hehe.. i see u mashing!! U're not that patient.
Weaknesses:
U develop a pattern. U keep doing the same things. Time to start changing yr mentality. It's like i can predict when u're goin to jump. Like after when i'm using Setsuka and u're using Taki, after yr FC1K, u will jump knowing i will do 2A. For 2 rounds, i was testing. And u did the same thing. U like to jump too much on wake up too. Not saying it's wrong, but sometimes, blocking is good too.
Mich- Taki
Strengths:
Definitely her mind games and Yomis. Since she's a super babe, U know it's kinda hard to think like her. Lol. I would say, an unorthrodox style not yet at her fullest potential. If u have the time, u definitely be better than what u are now. A combination of TAX and SAD = Mich. =/
Weaknesses:
Relies too much on some tools to deal damage. Like 1A or even 66B. And yr tolerance level is not that high. I can see that u're getting frustrated after losing a few rounds.
DTA- Olcadan
Strengths:
I've played with u for quite sometime already. U're more of a defensive player, and u have some interesting concepts of different characters. Have good knowledge of most of the cast. Have high patience and tolerance level.
Weaknesses:
U ought to concentrate on a few characters than try and use all of them. I know u want to know all of them. That u can just do yr homework at home. That's good enough already. U do not need to know the inputs of each move to know how to counter them. U just need to know the safety, how the move works and look like to counter it. U'll definitely be a better player than now if u stick to a few characters. And very prone to frustration when he eats combos that deals alot of damage.
Jovian- Sophitia, Yun Seong, Cervy, Setsuka
Strengths:
I will say my punishing skills, adapting to the situation and my reflex. I can easily see patterns after awhile. So try and change yr style after a few rounds to make me thinK! My knowledge of the game, i read the forum alot.
Weakness:
I tend to get greedy at times causing me my rounds. Like when i see the wall, i tend to go for wall combos. Yea. And i have low mind power. So i get tired after playing for like 2~ 3hours straight. I really do not know my weakness that well that, so i was hoping someone could point it out so i can improve my game. Thanks. =/
In no particular order:
1) Rii
2) Raymus
3) Tax and Mich ( I can't decide, so i jus put them together like Rii did)
4) DTA
5) Jovian
1) Rii A.k.a. R.O. Terror. - Nightmare, Raphael
Strengths:
I think he has the experience to handle things. He likes to do things his way. And his sense of satisfaction when he lands NM 2A+B can't be found anywhere in SG. (Eat that bitch!) I love the way he plays Raphael, totally awesome. On the overall, i still think his Raph is better than his NM, maybe due to the fact that i know NM too well.
Weaknesses:
After playing a few rounds, u can see a pattern at certain times of the matches, For eg. when u have one drop of life left. Yea lack of patience at times shows the random usage of GS A. I have always have the strange feeling that it's coming. So, i guess u just have to be more patient but looking at yr personality( EAT THAT BITCH!), it's kinda hard to train on this point. Lol.
2) Raymus - Astaroth, Voldo
Strengths:
As my sparring partner, well i do expect alot from him. Even though he doesn't play for a long period of time, he still has the shit to kill people. His RO is something to look out. His "sick" mentality is his double edge weapon. He wants to finish off his opponent in the worst ways ever, explaining the 180+ dmg wall combos he does. On overall, an all rounder in skills. Just that he can't punish well enough at times which cost him a round or 2. He adapts pretty well too. His knowledge of the game is pretty decent, his input is okay. Patience wise, i'm not sure. Good reflexes too. VERY HIGH tolerance level.
Weaknesses:
As i said, his "sick" mentality is his double edge weapon. Knowing he likes to do wall combos, u kinda know what he's gonna do when he's near the wall, what kind of moves he's gonna throw out. Even at the ring edge, i have a list of moves which he will do to RO u. Cuz all he thinks about is that. Develops a pattern but over a long period of time, maybe 1 week or a month. Lol. I guess i'm the only one who realise that cuz i play him for a few years already. Right on! =/
3) Tax - Taki and Cassy
Strengths:
U're too random at times, which makes u unpredictable. But yr randomness kills u at times too. U have the mentality "Avoiding is better than blocking". It's definitely a good thing to avoid people. Decent reflex, input wise, hehe.. i see u mashing!! U're not that patient.
Weaknesses:
U develop a pattern. U keep doing the same things. Time to start changing yr mentality. It's like i can predict when u're goin to jump. Like after when i'm using Setsuka and u're using Taki, after yr FC1K, u will jump knowing i will do 2A. For 2 rounds, i was testing. And u did the same thing. U like to jump too much on wake up too. Not saying it's wrong, but sometimes, blocking is good too.
Mich- Taki
Strengths:
Definitely her mind games and Yomis. Since she's a super babe, U know it's kinda hard to think like her. Lol. I would say, an unorthrodox style not yet at her fullest potential. If u have the time, u definitely be better than what u are now. A combination of TAX and SAD = Mich. =/
Weaknesses:
Relies too much on some tools to deal damage. Like 1A or even 66B. And yr tolerance level is not that high. I can see that u're getting frustrated after losing a few rounds.
DTA- Olcadan
Strengths:
I've played with u for quite sometime already. U're more of a defensive player, and u have some interesting concepts of different characters. Have good knowledge of most of the cast. Have high patience and tolerance level.
Weaknesses:
U ought to concentrate on a few characters than try and use all of them. I know u want to know all of them. That u can just do yr homework at home. That's good enough already. U do not need to know the inputs of each move to know how to counter them. U just need to know the safety, how the move works and look like to counter it. U'll definitely be a better player than now if u stick to a few characters. And very prone to frustration when he eats combos that deals alot of damage.
Jovian- Sophitia, Yun Seong, Cervy, Setsuka
Strengths:
I will say my punishing skills, adapting to the situation and my reflex. I can easily see patterns after awhile. So try and change yr style after a few rounds to make me thinK! My knowledge of the game, i read the forum alot.
Weakness:
I tend to get greedy at times causing me my rounds. Like when i see the wall, i tend to go for wall combos. Yea. And i have low mind power. So i get tired after playing for like 2~ 3hours straight. I really do not know my weakness that well that, so i was hoping someone could point it out so i can improve my game. Thanks. =/
player critiques by... Reinhart
(ad verbatim from rein's post on sc.com forums sg thread)
1
JOVIAN- Sophitia (I HATE!), Slutsuka, Yun Sung, Cervantes
Strengths:
I think this guy has it all. He's got the reflexes, the knowledge, the input power, the patience, the adaptability. Totally tournament material.
Weaknesses:
Seriously, I'm still dumbfounded. All I can exploit against him would be his character weaknesses. But then again, his characters are all frigging good as well.
2
RAYMUS - ASStaroth, Voldo (Bodoh)
Strengths:
As a Jov's partner (eh hehe), definitely ain't that far off from Jovian. He's got the reflexes definitely, the knowledge of the game as well and of course the patience.
Weaknesses:
Adaptability he definitely has but not fast enough, so if you are dynamic enough, you can exploit this weakness of his in a tournament situation where time to 'feel' your opponent isn't much.
3
RII - R.O.Terror & Raphael
Strengths:
Spacing, Positioning, Arena Awareness. These strengths of mine compliments my characters as they both excel in mid to long range attacks.
Weaknesses:
Impatience is my main issue. Must be the desire for more souls!
4 & 5 (I can't decide between these 3 really)
MICH - Taki
Strengths:
Overall, she's just solid in every department. Intelligent gameplay and excellent yomi (esp when in Pale Mistress Super Mich mode), in which she suddenly seems to have Tax's offense, Sad's unthordox style and her super safety.
Weaknesses:
Tends to PZ (give chance) at times and gets more and more careless when frustrated. Somewhat like my issue with impatience.
TAX - cASSandra, Taki
Strengths:
Knows his offense very well, when to use TJ, TC, Auto-Gis and such. Maybe he's just whoring them. I don't know but it's definitely working.
Weaknesses:
Predictable, if you can spot his pattern. My impression is that he comes to the arcade with a certain concept. If you can figure out his concept, you can beat him. Until he realises it and develops another one.
DTA - Ru Hua
Strengths:
Defense. Right straight up pure defense. He's patient to a certain extent and has a high rate of blocking. Defintely tough to crack. And his gameplay frustrates me and I do think anyone else, which is an advantage to him.
Weaknesses:
Freezing. Sometimes he gets too caught up in being defensive and freezes. Especially when on the receiving end of blockstuns, weird maneuveurs and such.
In general:
The above mentioned players definitely know their mains, the system and most importantly, experience.
1
JOVIAN- Sophitia (I HATE!), Slutsuka, Yun Sung, Cervantes
Strengths:
I think this guy has it all. He's got the reflexes, the knowledge, the input power, the patience, the adaptability. Totally tournament material.
Weaknesses:
Seriously, I'm still dumbfounded. All I can exploit against him would be his character weaknesses. But then again, his characters are all frigging good as well.
2
RAYMUS - ASStaroth, Voldo (Bodoh
)Strengths:
As a Jov's partner (eh hehe), definitely ain't that far off from Jovian. He's got the reflexes definitely, the knowledge of the game as well and of course the patience.
Weaknesses:
Adaptability he definitely has but not fast enough, so if you are dynamic enough, you can exploit this weakness of his in a tournament situation where time to 'feel' your opponent isn't much.
3
RII - R.O.Terror & Raphael
Strengths:
Spacing, Positioning, Arena Awareness. These strengths of mine compliments my characters as they both excel in mid to long range attacks.
Weaknesses:
Impatience is my main issue. Must be the desire for more souls!
4 & 5 (I can't decide between these 3 really)
MICH - Taki
Strengths:
Overall, she's just solid in every department. Intelligent gameplay and excellent yomi (esp when in Pale Mistress Super Mich mode), in which she suddenly seems to have Tax's offense, Sad's unthordox style and her super safety.
Weaknesses:
Tends to PZ (give chance) at times and gets more and more careless when frustrated. Somewhat like my issue with impatience.
TAX - cASSandra, Taki
Strengths:
Knows his offense very well, when to use TJ, TC, Auto-Gis and such. Maybe he's just whoring them. I don't know but it's definitely working.
Weaknesses:
Predictable, if you can spot his pattern. My impression is that he comes to the arcade with a certain concept. If you can figure out his concept, you can beat him. Until he realises it and develops another one.
DTA - Ru Hua
Strengths:
Defense. Right straight up pure defense. He's patient to a certain extent and has a high rate of blocking. Defintely tough to crack. And his gameplay frustrates me and I do think anyone else, which is an advantage to him.
Weaknesses:
Freezing. Sometimes he gets too caught up in being defensive and freezes. Especially when on the receiving end of blockstuns, weird maneuveurs and such.
In general:
The above mentioned players definitely know their mains, the system and most importantly, experience.
player critiques by... Raymus
(ad verbatim from raymus' post in the sc.com forums sg thread)
Hello.
In my opinion, the top 5 (excluding me for further assessment of others) = (Not in order)
Rii
Jovian
Archon
Taxi
Hikaru
Rii:
Strengths : Good adaptibility. Always keeps trying to find ways to survive against others with his somewhat difficult character. Hence he occasionally comes up with strange methods to deal with opponents. Fair bit of experience. Confounds me at times; especially with his strange GSGSGSGSGSGSGSGS stuff. Creative mixups that work in practicality. Rii really knows WHAT works when he plays against different opponents. This makes him a force to reckon. I dont know how he does it.
Weaknesses : Low tolerance level ( from what i know so far ). Other than that, his lack of knowledge in some aspects of play (frames, Safety) may reveal cracks that we can exploit! Sisters and voldo. The characters he plays are also extremely unsafe.
My take: You need more than theory to beat him. You need to be used to the way things occur in each round, you need experience. Then you can get the nerves to live through his practical style of gameplay (which is nerve wrecking), and exploit the underlying technical flaws(Safety etc). A bit abstract lol. However wants you conquer this, his nightmare becomes as threatening as a Reinhart (you have a sweet smile). Then he will come up with something new to make you think he is damn ugly.
Jovian
My take comes first: He thinks he is female. He wants to be one. Obviously. Ive played this guy since ... blah. HE .... You need to be brave, play many yomi layers and still remain safe from unnecessary punishment at the same time. This guy plays heavily on perception. He sees what he does what. Comboed with his experience, he is as to be as feared as a girl. Don't whiff mindlessly and dont be too afraid to attack (Easier said than done). Fully understand the characters he plays. He exploits almost everything good of each character he learns; hence it is good to know what each character is capable of.
Strengths: Alot of time to test stuff. Spots patterns like an einstein and adapts like a chameleon. Complains alot about broken shit like a granny but always effectively deals with it. Good reflexes. Profecient at punishing. Will do anything to win. Very consistent player. Annoying as hell because he steps like a ballet dancer. Dont bother ringing him out. Seen many tricks. oh yeah he breaks throws like pocky
Weaknesses: This guy. is overly cautious and not very cautious either. Very strange one. can exploit. This guy may retaliate even when under a disadvantage. This is to avoid mixups which involve him having to wait. Yet he may not retaliate at all times.
Exploit this cautiousness (AT TIMES). I give it that its not easy to exploit though. Make him think you want to do something but do otherwise. yeah. DONT MINDLESSLY WAVE YOUR ATTACKS AT HIM AND HOPe that they will hit. You must have a purpose and backup plan, if not go fly kite
ARCHON!
Strengths: Extensive exposure to all characters. His more profecient characters would annoy you like a fly. Is very defensive and complains about others being defensive. His experience and passion will BURN you like a really hot flint.
Tedious to play against. Has a very evil laugh.
Weaknesses: Takes a while to adapt. Betweek one day to 1 week. Then he finds an amazing way to deal with your gameplay. you become astounded. Then you may take just as long to figure him out. His overly defensiveness can be exploited. Sometimes he stands and just guards at the beginning of the round; its like signing a "Hey mix me up" contract. in serious matches he makes time pass by slowly, very slowly.
Taxi:
Strengths: Loves to jump. Loves to play strong WL GAMES (his cahracters :O). VERY OFFENSIVE. quite experienced. Annoying.
HOWEVER
Weaknesses: Fairly predictable fashion of offense. 8WRs alot. why is 8WR too much bad? 8WR= Counter hit for asta = up to half life. yay. Jumps alot too!
Hikaru:
STRENGTHS: REFLEX AND ADAPTIBILITY. Its like a toned down jovian in some areas and a buffed up jovian in other areas. their similarly different. Has a decent knowledge of frames and tech traps. Interesting kilik play. consistent with JFs : asura GB.....
Weaknesses: Inexperience with many characters. IF he hasnt played a certain character much, he'll face difficulty.
IMO this guy has many many potential.
I hope my input is a bit..... useful
Hello.
In my opinion, the top 5 (excluding me for further assessment of others) = (Not in order)
Rii
Jovian
Archon
Taxi
Hikaru
Rii:
Strengths : Good adaptibility. Always keeps trying to find ways to survive against others with his somewhat difficult character. Hence he occasionally comes up with strange methods to deal with opponents. Fair bit of experience. Confounds me at times; especially with his strange GSGSGSGSGSGSGSGS stuff. Creative mixups that work in practicality. Rii really knows WHAT works when he plays against different opponents. This makes him a force to reckon. I dont know how he does it.
Weaknesses : Low tolerance level ( from what i know so far ). Other than that, his lack of knowledge in some aspects of play (frames, Safety) may reveal cracks that we can exploit! Sisters and voldo. The characters he plays are also extremely unsafe.
My take: You need more than theory to beat him. You need to be used to the way things occur in each round, you need experience. Then you can get the nerves to live through his practical style of gameplay (which is nerve wrecking), and exploit the underlying technical flaws(Safety etc). A bit abstract lol. However wants you conquer this, his nightmare becomes as threatening as a Reinhart (you have a sweet smile). Then he will come up with something new to make you think he is damn ugly.
Jovian
My take comes first: He thinks he is female. He wants to be one. Obviously. Ive played this guy since ... blah. HE .... You need to be brave, play many yomi layers and still remain safe from unnecessary punishment at the same time. This guy plays heavily on perception. He sees what he does what. Comboed with his experience, he is as to be as feared as a girl. Don't whiff mindlessly and dont be too afraid to attack (Easier said than done). Fully understand the characters he plays. He exploits almost everything good of each character he learns; hence it is good to know what each character is capable of.
Strengths: Alot of time to test stuff. Spots patterns like an einstein and adapts like a chameleon. Complains alot about broken shit like a granny but always effectively deals with it. Good reflexes. Profecient at punishing. Will do anything to win. Very consistent player. Annoying as hell because he steps like a ballet dancer. Dont bother ringing him out. Seen many tricks. oh yeah he breaks throws like pocky
Weaknesses: This guy. is overly cautious and not very cautious either. Very strange one. can exploit. This guy may retaliate even when under a disadvantage. This is to avoid mixups which involve him having to wait. Yet he may not retaliate at all times.
Exploit this cautiousness (AT TIMES). I give it that its not easy to exploit though. Make him think you want to do something but do otherwise. yeah. DONT MINDLESSLY WAVE YOUR ATTACKS AT HIM AND HOPe that they will hit. You must have a purpose and backup plan, if not go fly kite
ARCHON!
Strengths: Extensive exposure to all characters. His more profecient characters would annoy you like a fly. Is very defensive and complains about others being defensive. His experience and passion will BURN you like a really hot flint.
Tedious to play against. Has a very evil laugh.
Weaknesses: Takes a while to adapt. Betweek one day to 1 week. Then he finds an amazing way to deal with your gameplay. you become astounded. Then you may take just as long to figure him out. His overly defensiveness can be exploited. Sometimes he stands and just guards at the beginning of the round; its like signing a "Hey mix me up" contract. in serious matches he makes time pass by slowly, very slowly.
Taxi:
Strengths: Loves to jump. Loves to play strong WL GAMES (his cahracters :O). VERY OFFENSIVE. quite experienced. Annoying.
HOWEVER
Weaknesses: Fairly predictable fashion of offense. 8WRs alot. why is 8WR too much bad? 8WR= Counter hit for asta = up to half life. yay. Jumps alot too!
Hikaru:
STRENGTHS: REFLEX AND ADAPTIBILITY. Its like a toned down jovian in some areas and a buffed up jovian in other areas. their similarly different. Has a decent knowledge of frames and tech traps. Interesting kilik play. consistent with JFs : asura GB.....
Weaknesses: Inexperience with many characters. IF he hasnt played a certain character much, he'll face difficulty.
IMO this guy has many many potential.
I hope my input is a bit..... useful
player critiques by... Tax
k rein asked me to do a critique of the top 5 players in sg.
now, the following is purely my personal opinion.
to me, there're really only 2 players who are "top", so here are my critiques:
jovian: erm nothing much to critique actually... but perhaps it would be good to start sticking to a character and just working on him/her. after all, SBO doesn't allow for character change. maybe when he's run through the roster, he should find someone to stick to.
strengths: technically strong, is aware of frames and punishment, good movement, good yomi, good adaptability, patient
weaknesses: too much character changing
rein: i think he's very good with nm, but imo, there are only so many things you can do with nm. bring all that ring awareness/positioning to a character like asta, and that'd be devastating. i also noticed that sometimes he risks too much to set up stuff.
strengths: good ring awareness/positioning, good yomi, good adaptability, interesting setups
weaknesses: nightmare has too many character weaknesses, ppl are getting used to his setups, takes too much damage sometimes to set up an RO/mixup, needs to punish more.
and that's it! my 2 would-be SBO participants. let's hope one of us in soul sg strikes toto, eh?
Tax
now, the following is purely my personal opinion.
to me, there're really only 2 players who are "top", so here are my critiques:
jovian: erm nothing much to critique actually... but perhaps it would be good to start sticking to a character and just working on him/her. after all, SBO doesn't allow for character change. maybe when he's run through the roster, he should find someone to stick to.
strengths: technically strong, is aware of frames and punishment, good movement, good yomi, good adaptability, patient
weaknesses: too much character changing
rein: i think he's very good with nm, but imo, there are only so many things you can do with nm. bring all that ring awareness/positioning to a character like asta, and that'd be devastating. i also noticed that sometimes he risks too much to set up stuff.
strengths: good ring awareness/positioning, good yomi, good adaptability, interesting setups
weaknesses: nightmare has too many character weaknesses, ppl are getting used to his setups, takes too much damage sometimes to set up an RO/mixup, needs to punish more.
and that's it! my 2 would-be SBO participants. let's hope one of us in soul sg strikes toto, eh?
Tax
Thursday, April 12, 2007
sc2 > sc3:ae?
what do you guys think? i think a lot of our current sg players reminisce a lot about sc2. but is sc3:ae really that bad?
now, if you held me at gunpoint and made me choose between sc2 and sc3:ae, i think i'd choose sc2, reason being:
1) the gameplay is faster
2) T3 would kick your collective asses with EXC
i really have a gripe about sc3:ae's gameplay speed. it's SO SLOW. and everyone is really just turtling and waiting for opportunities (me included). i attribute this to the increased importance of punishers and the reduced speed and safety of moves in general.
but something i do appreciate about sc3:ae is its focus on technical input. now that i look back, a lot of my gameplay was technically shoddy. i think in sc2 it was all about churning mixups as much as possible, so there was really no emphasis on punishing. the most important technical stuff was really just G2 and BT JFs, which were optional for some characters. now if you don't watch out, you're going to eat a 236B for 1/4 life dmg. and characters like yoshi, setsuka and voldo become really scary if you can do all their weird shit.
i'd like to think that sc3:ae has forced us to improve our technical input while maintaining our mixup standards, thus giving us the best of both worlds. so while it's not my favourite game, i think it's a step we have to take. so stop griping and keep playing! come sc4, it'll be time for sg domination.
PHWOAR!
now, if you held me at gunpoint and made me choose between sc2 and sc3:ae, i think i'd choose sc2, reason being:
1) the gameplay is faster
2) T3 would kick your collective asses with EXC
i really have a gripe about sc3:ae's gameplay speed. it's SO SLOW. and everyone is really just turtling and waiting for opportunities (me included). i attribute this to the increased importance of punishers and the reduced speed and safety of moves in general.
but something i do appreciate about sc3:ae is its focus on technical input. now that i look back, a lot of my gameplay was technically shoddy. i think in sc2 it was all about churning mixups as much as possible, so there was really no emphasis on punishing. the most important technical stuff was really just G2 and BT JFs, which were optional for some characters. now if you don't watch out, you're going to eat a 236B for 1/4 life dmg. and characters like yoshi, setsuka and voldo become really scary if you can do all their weird shit.
i'd like to think that sc3:ae has forced us to improve our technical input while maintaining our mixup standards, thus giving us the best of both worlds. so while it's not my favourite game, i think it's a step we have to take. so stop griping and keep playing! come sc4, it'll be time for sg domination.
PHWOAR!
arcadia sc3:ae tier list (by oosaka)
hey guys, here's the arcadia tier list for sc3:ae... many thanks to talim jp for posting it on the jp thread in the sc.com forums. it's pretty controversial imo... especially the lower ranks. talim jp says he'll ask oosaka for comments on the tier list, so keep watching this blog!
Tax
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From top:
S= Mitsu, Setsuka
A= Asta, Sophie, Cas
B= Voldo, Maxi, Sig
C= Cervy, Zas, Kilik, Taki, Ivy, X
D= Liz, Yoshi
E= Yun, Ralf
F= Rock, Mina
G= Li, Amy, Nighty, Tira
H= Huang, Talim
Tax
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From top:
S= Mitsu, Setsuka
A= Asta, Sophie, Cas
B= Voldo, Maxi, Sig
C= Cervy, Zas, Kilik, Taki, Ivy, X
D= Liz, Yoshi
E= Yun, Ralf
F= Rock, Mina
G= Li, Amy, Nighty, Tira
H= Huang, Talim
Thursday, April 5, 2007
random musings on taki
why does NO ONE in japan use taki in tourneys?
they're missing out on a lot, i tell you. specifically, the joys of:
- WL A
- WL KKK
- WS AAA
- 1K
- FC A+K
- 66B:A
- AAB
- BA
- FC 1A+B
- 4A+B / 6A+B
- 6A
- 6B
- PO
- 4B
and yes, it's in order of importance. 2As and throws are a given and thus not included.
Tax
(edit: i added FC 1A+B, 4A+B / 6A+B, and PO after dtarchon's comment. although PO to me really just comprises of PORC, PO B, PO A and maybe PO 2_8A. in that order of importance.)
they're missing out on a lot, i tell you. specifically, the joys of:
- WL A
- WL KKK
- WS AAA
- 1K
- FC A+K
- 66B:A
- AAB
- BA
- FC 1A+B
- 4A+B / 6A+B
- 6A
- 6B
- PO
- 4B
and yes, it's in order of importance. 2As and throws are a given and thus not included.
Tax
(edit: i added FC 1A+B, 4A+B / 6A+B, and PO after dtarchon's comment. although PO to me really just comprises of PORC, PO B, PO A and maybe PO 2_8A. in that order of importance.)
Wednesday, March 14, 2007
first batch of photos!
here's the link to the first batch of photos of the community!
We apologise for not being able to adequately capture Tax's queer toast eating habits for your general appreciation.
if you squint your eyes hard enough, you get a cool 3d effect of sharon waving.
cool dude rein after attending a wedding lunch.
hold on, where is sad?! it seems that the scheming bloke removed the photos with himself in it!
the photos are not in fact chronologically arranged. while this is entirely due to my laziness, there's no real reason to save your time at the expense of mine over such a trivial matter. ha. (i'll do it some other time)
if you want to see the photos in a nice flickr album, you can get it here.
(if the pictures post today were too large, do make a comment and i'll put thumbnails on the page instead in future)
We apologise for not being able to adequately capture Tax's queer toast eating habits for your general appreciation.
if you squint your eyes hard enough, you get a cool 3d effect of sharon waving.
cool dude rein after attending a wedding lunch.
hold on, where is sad?! it seems that the scheming bloke removed the photos with himself in it!
the photos are not in fact chronologically arranged. while this is entirely due to my laziness, there's no real reason to save your time at the expense of mine over such a trivial matter. ha. (i'll do it some other time)
if you want to see the photos in a nice flickr album, you can get it here.
(if the pictures post today were too large, do make a comment and i'll put thumbnails on the page instead in future)
Tuesday, March 6, 2007
tier list by... Reinhart!
ok this is rein's tier list, ad verbatim.
top-tier: everyone but nm
bottom tier: nm
hope i got that right, rein! :D
Tax
top-tier: everyone but nm
bottom tier: nm
hope i got that right, rein! :D
Tax
Monday, March 5, 2007
registration for april VS league tourney is OPEN!
hey guys, registration for the april vs league tourney is now open! it's still a while till april, but always good to grab those spots asap!
on another note: T3 will be taking the top 3 placings from now on. so there. BLEAHHHH!!
Tax
on another note: T3 will be taking the top 3 placings from now on. so there. BLEAHHHH!!
Tax
Saturday, March 3, 2007
Official Photo Poster
hi, this is Amarax. i've been designated official photo poster by Taxi, so to ensure this happens smoothly we'll start with the images from the ntsc|j sc3 manual.
chapter 1
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chapter 2
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it's basically a tutorial in comic form for the people who have not touched soul calibur before. the first chapter is about sophitia explaining the very basics to cassandra, and the second about how sophitia sneaks off at night to consult olcadan (so that cassie still can't beat her; now isn't she just evil).
stay tuned for more interesting (read: scandalous) photos to come.
Amarax
chapter 1
chapter 2
it's basically a tutorial in comic form for the people who have not touched soul calibur before. the first chapter is about sophitia explaining the very basics to cassandra, and the second about how sophitia sneaks off at night to consult olcadan (so that cassie still can't beat her; now isn't she just evil).
stay tuned for more interesting (read: scandalous) photos to come.
Amarax
Thursday, March 1, 2007
tier list by... Tax!
ok this is my tier list. i've judged the characters based on whether they fulfill certain criteria, and how viable their tools are in a tourney scenario.
specifically the criteria are:
- good punisher (fast, damaging)?
- easy setups for mixups?
- good mixup tools (good lows/throws and safe, damaging mids)?
- high RO potential (front, back, etc.)?
- good evasion tools (moves that TC, TJ, step)?
- good horizontal mids (safe, tracks well)?
- good range (or at least, enough tools such that range is not an issue)?
S: asta
he has everything. seriously. maybe except a better TJ move.
A: mitsu, cervy, soph, cass, setsuka
mitsu has 2KB (stupid low), fast and damaging AAs and BBs (they act as mitsu's main punishers as well), 3B (good launcher), and other assorted rubbish like 22B, crouch dash, etc.
cervy has 1K (stupid low), 3B (good launcher), A+B (stupid damaging hori mid, luckily it's punishable) and 3A+B (3A from sc2... dammit). cervy also has that crazy 236236B+G throw that does 75 dmg. cervy has aB and iGDR for punishing too.
soph has 236B (stupid punisher), 236AA (crazy TC hori mid.... luckily it's unsafe), 66A (crazy long range mid), 11A (crazy long range low that's SAFE), 3A (super TC hori mid... luckily it's punishable now), 44B (backwards-moving TC launcher), and 1K and 4B for wakeup. oh and good AAs and BBs too.
cass has 236B and 236AB, same as soph, but perhaps less range. she relies on things like 66A (TC hori mid with okay range), WL mixup (both WL A and WL B RO and wall splat), 66B (FC launcher that does crazy dmg), 3B (almost safe launcher) and good AAs and BBs. while her RO game is better than soph, her lows aren't as good, but 11B and 1K are decent.
setsuka has the range and damage of nm with the speed of xiang. that's just crazy imo. recently i've also realised her max dmg stuff actually isn't that hard to do. and 33B is just mad spammable. the only problem arises when ppl start stepping to her right, which evades most of her core moves. this leaves her with 66A (moderately effective) and FC 3aB (high risk, moderate reward). i'm not sure what to say about her lows though... they're not very good but it's not like ppl are going to block low. thankfully she still has throws to rely on.
A-: voldo, yoshi
they're good... if you can do their crazy input shit consistently. voldo needs that MC A+B:G to push him up to top tier, and yoshi just has a lot of freakish input shit that in theory is SUPERB. of course i realise that those taiwanese ppl can do the yoshi stuff... but i really need to experience it for myself to make a solid decision.
B: lizardman, yunsung, xiang, amy, mina, siegfried, taki, zasalamel, ivy, kilik, nm, rock, talim
B-: raph, hwang, li long, tira
the B grade characters are missing a few of my criteria here and there, but still have certain strong tools. i actually think that they have a decent chance to beat the top tiers, but they need to work a lot harder.
as for B- characters, i just don't think they're that good, but on the other hand, these are the characters i've had the least experience with.
Tax
specifically the criteria are:
- good punisher (fast, damaging)?
- easy setups for mixups?
- good mixup tools (good lows/throws and safe, damaging mids)?
- high RO potential (front, back, etc.)?
- good evasion tools (moves that TC, TJ, step)?
- good horizontal mids (safe, tracks well)?
- good range (or at least, enough tools such that range is not an issue)?
S: asta
he has everything. seriously. maybe except a better TJ move.
A: mitsu, cervy, soph, cass, setsuka
mitsu has 2KB (stupid low), fast and damaging AAs and BBs (they act as mitsu's main punishers as well), 3B (good launcher), and other assorted rubbish like 22B, crouch dash, etc.
cervy has 1K (stupid low), 3B (good launcher), A+B (stupid damaging hori mid, luckily it's punishable) and 3A+B (3A from sc2... dammit). cervy also has that crazy 236236B+G throw that does 75 dmg. cervy has aB and iGDR for punishing too.
soph has 236B (stupid punisher), 236AA (crazy TC hori mid.... luckily it's unsafe), 66A (crazy long range mid), 11A (crazy long range low that's SAFE), 3A (super TC hori mid... luckily it's punishable now), 44B (backwards-moving TC launcher), and 1K and 4B for wakeup. oh and good AAs and BBs too.
cass has 236B and 236AB, same as soph, but perhaps less range. she relies on things like 66A (TC hori mid with okay range), WL mixup (both WL A and WL B RO and wall splat), 66B (FC launcher that does crazy dmg), 3B (almost safe launcher) and good AAs and BBs. while her RO game is better than soph, her lows aren't as good, but 11B and 1K are decent.
setsuka has the range and damage of nm with the speed of xiang. that's just crazy imo. recently i've also realised her max dmg stuff actually isn't that hard to do. and 33B is just mad spammable. the only problem arises when ppl start stepping to her right, which evades most of her core moves. this leaves her with 66A (moderately effective) and FC 3aB (high risk, moderate reward). i'm not sure what to say about her lows though... they're not very good but it's not like ppl are going to block low. thankfully she still has throws to rely on.
A-: voldo, yoshi
they're good... if you can do their crazy input shit consistently. voldo needs that MC A+B:G to push him up to top tier, and yoshi just has a lot of freakish input shit that in theory is SUPERB. of course i realise that those taiwanese ppl can do the yoshi stuff... but i really need to experience it for myself to make a solid decision.
B: lizardman, yunsung, xiang, amy, mina, siegfried, taki, zasalamel, ivy, kilik, nm, rock, talim
B-: raph, hwang, li long, tira
the B grade characters are missing a few of my criteria here and there, but still have certain strong tools. i actually think that they have a decent chance to beat the top tiers, but they need to work a lot harder.
as for B- characters, i just don't think they're that good, but on the other hand, these are the characters i've had the least experience with.
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tier list by... Jovian/Sandra
an exceedingly fast reply by Jovian... aka Sandra.
... erm yeah. anyway thank you for contributing!
everyone give your comments! and send me more of those tier lists asap!
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(verbatim from Jovian's PM)
Okay, i'll rate according to S , A, B, C tier.
S - Asta, Mitsu. Base of my exp, this 2 are the toughest shit to beat in the hands of a good player. With Asta having good RO, and dmg, and even speed in certain situations. Mitsu? No need say. 2K, B.
A - Sisters, Cervy, Setsuka, Kilik, Xiang, Yoshi, Ivy, Voldo.
B - Mina, Sieg, Amy, Taki, Zasal, Yun seong, Tira, Maxi, Rock, Lizardman
C - NM, Talim, Li Long, Hwang
F Tier- Olcadan. He's too random. U can't beat that.
... erm yeah. anyway thank you for contributing!
everyone give your comments! and send me more of those tier lists asap!
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(verbatim from Jovian's PM)
Okay, i'll rate according to S , A, B, C tier.
S - Asta, Mitsu. Base of my exp, this 2 are the toughest shit to beat in the hands of a good player. With Asta having good RO, and dmg, and even speed in certain situations. Mitsu? No need say. 2K, B.
A - Sisters, Cervy, Setsuka, Kilik, Xiang, Yoshi, Ivy, Voldo.
B - Mina, Sieg, Amy, Taki, Zasal, Yun seong, Tira, Maxi, Rock, Lizardman
C - NM, Talim, Li Long, Hwang
F Tier- Olcadan. He's too random. U can't beat that.
Soul SG's SC3:AE ver. B tier list
hey guys, i'm thinking we should consolidate all our opinions to form our very own tier list based on our own gameplay styles and experiences. feel free to send your own tier lists (as specific as possible, with as much explanation as you want) and i'll post them up on the blog so we can all comment and come up with Soul SG's very own tier list!
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VS league - feb tourney
i just realised that sc3 is the ONLY game that has seen full brackets for the past 2 months' tourneys. i think this really says something positive about our community. if possible, let's maintain full brackets for future tourneys!
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on another note, i find that a lot of people are joining the tourneys for a variety of reasons, be it to show support, test their skills in a tourney situation, or display individual styles of gameplay. i think regardless of your reasons for joining, the important thing is that you enjoy the experience.
to the people who join purely to make numbers and show support for the VS league, i'd like to say a big thank you. hopefully as more tourneys go by, you'll find your own reasons to play in tourneys. i also hope that in future there'll be a big enough response such that we won't have to ask people to join the tourneys only to make numbers.
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i think the past few tourneys have shown that anything can happen. a player's victory depends on more than just skill level, but also control of their nerves, muscle memory, quick thinking, and especially, luck. there've been quite a few upsets recently, so i hope this encourages everyone to aim for the top 3 placings, be it the newcomers or the veterans.
anyway the next VS league tourney will be in april, so that means more time for preparation and training for everyone. so get your game on!
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on another note, i find that a lot of people are joining the tourneys for a variety of reasons, be it to show support, test their skills in a tourney situation, or display individual styles of gameplay. i think regardless of your reasons for joining, the important thing is that you enjoy the experience.
to the people who join purely to make numbers and show support for the VS league, i'd like to say a big thank you. hopefully as more tourneys go by, you'll find your own reasons to play in tourneys. i also hope that in future there'll be a big enough response such that we won't have to ask people to join the tourneys only to make numbers.
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i think the past few tourneys have shown that anything can happen. a player's victory depends on more than just skill level, but also control of their nerves, muscle memory, quick thinking, and especially, luck. there've been quite a few upsets recently, so i hope this encourages everyone to aim for the top 3 placings, be it the newcomers or the veterans.
anyway the next VS league tourney will be in april, so that means more time for preparation and training for everyone. so get your game on!
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007
Soul SG's very own blog!
you knew this was coming, guys...
... TAX NEEDS A PLACE TO BITCH.
seriously though, i created this blog for two reasons:
- to discuss general strat and specific character strat for all soul calibur games
- to discuss certain issues about soul calibur (gameplay or otherwise), the community, or just sg gaming in general
i'll be posting some stuff i find relevant, but everyone else is free to post anything or make any comments, as long as it lies within the scope of the blog.
if you wanna post anything on this blog, just send an email to soulsg@hotmail.com (yes, i can't believe i managed to get the email address too) with the issues you want to post, in the exact format you want it to be seen in this blog (i'll post it ad verbatim).
also, if you're interested in helping me make the blog look nicer, or add more features, please let me know as well.
so let's begin!
PS. of course if you post something negative about taki, you will be flamed.
PPS. just kidding.
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... TAX NEEDS A PLACE TO BITCH.
seriously though, i created this blog for two reasons:
- to discuss general strat and specific character strat for all soul calibur games
- to discuss certain issues about soul calibur (gameplay or otherwise), the community, or just sg gaming in general
i'll be posting some stuff i find relevant, but everyone else is free to post anything or make any comments, as long as it lies within the scope of the blog.
if you wanna post anything on this blog, just send an email to soulsg@hotmail.com (yes, i can't believe i managed to get the email address too) with the issues you want to post, in the exact format you want it to be seen in this blog (i'll post it ad verbatim).
also, if you're interested in helping me make the blog look nicer, or add more features, please let me know as well.
so let's begin!
PS. of course if you post something negative about taki, you will be flamed.
PPS. just kidding.
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